Keer “Unplugged”

Cleaning up my sidebar: 8 Comments

1. DollyMama wrote,

   Well, I enjoyed reading your reviews and would read more if you wrote them. I think that it would be most interesting to just highlight any particular parts of the book that were especially helpful or horrible. Just hit the highlights, you know?

   But, hey–don’t do it for us. You’ve got plenty on your plate as it is. ONly do it if you have the time and feel like it!

   Link | March 30th, 2006 at 4:44 am

2. razorbackmama wrote,

   DM that is a GREAT idea…just hitting the really good/really troublesome stuff. That would be a LOT easier!

   Link | March 30th, 2006 at 10:33 am

3. Barbara wrote,

   agreeing!!! i’d love to see you finish up…

   Link | March 30th, 2006 at 2:06 pm

4. Beth wrote,

   Hi Keer!
   Thanks for your congrats, we’re SO excited to welcome another blessing into our family!
   I’d love to follow along with you if you finished. But I know how time consuming it can be, so no pressure… Even if it takes a year, or two to finish, then that’s okay too.;)

   Link | April 1st, 2006 at 6:01 am

5. Beth wrote,

   Oh yeah! And I wanted to let you know that my old HSB blog got totally inhiliated somehow, just erased…the whole thing?! I guess b/c I wasn’t active enough? I dunno… but my point is that the link to my Pearl post that you have is a now a dud, so you’ll want to link to it on my blogger site (I’m so glad that I had dual posts! but sad I lost all of my great comments that were at the HSB site.;( Anyways, here’s the good links to the same posts;
   http://brewcrew95.blogspot.com/2005/09/created-to-be-his-helpmeet-true-story.html
   http://brewcrew95.blogspot.com/2005/10/pearls-ngj-ministries.html

   Link | April 1st, 2006 at 6:09 am

6. Serena wrote,

   I think you need to do what you are led to do and then not worry about it. It is always good to finish something you start, but if Father is leading you not to, then don’t. I have appreciated what you have written and think it has been needed.
   Love and shalom,
   Serena

   Link | April 2nd, 2006 at 8:57 pm

7. Brindusa wrote,

   Thank you for your review, Keer, I think you did a good job. It made me see some problems I had not been aware of. If you have the time and think God would want you to do this, I would be quite interested in comments about the rest of the chapters too. If you can stand doing this. Sometimes when I read something that is way off I feel so frustrated and in a way ’suffocated’ as there is SO much error to point out, that it’s very hard to bring myself to say anything at all. I don’t even know where to start and how to say all that there should be said, do you know what I mean?

   Anyway, I’m grateful to you and Spunky for opening my eyes to many things I (am embarrassed to) have not seen. In some respects the book did help me and in some other areas I realize now I made assumptions about what the author must have meant and so on. Had I realized from the beginning what they teach about there being no sinful nature, I would have been much more on my guard. My husband and I do without apology consider that to be heresy.

   It’s interesting how once you read something with more discernment you become aware of things you never saw before. For instance… and I don’t meant to be splitting hairs here, but nobody mentioned this so I throw it in here. In the introduction Debi tells the story of how she came to get married to Michael Pearl. She describes him as “a real prude! He wouldn’t even let the old ladies shake him hand after Sunday Morning service.” (page 14) However, this same man, her pastor at the time, called her to go with him to a gospel meeting so she would help with the girls while he dealt with the men. The drive was one-hour long and when they got back it was dark. She says he occasionally called on her to accompany him, so it didn’t happen just this one time. Anyway, this time when she did go with him, while the hippies were crying out to God after the message was preached, Michael got so excited that she took her hand. She felt her time had finally come (she had wanted him since she was 13). The ride home took one hour during which he was silent, and since he said nothing at all she decided to speak out herself. This is what she said: “You remember the boy you baptized Sunday night, the little guy who could barely see over the top of the baptistry? Well, someday I would like to give you a little boy just like that!” (page 14) His reaction was to jump out of the car and run around the parsonage three times, then pick her up, throw her up in the air and say “Let’s get married.”

   My comment is (and I am sorry if this is too long): does nobody else find this… improper, immodest (how else to describe it?) ? Here is a man that has a problem with shaking hands with old ladies in public, right after church worship together. But he has no problems with riding by himself in his car with a young woman, for two hours, part of which in the dark? Is this chaste and modest and discrete behavior on the part of a lady, seeing that a man you like says nothing to you, to approach him yourself with the comment ‘I would so like to give you a child someday!’ ??? Modesty and being discrete are not just a matter of dress, surely it’s a matter of conduct too. I would have thought it highly improper of me to approach my future husband this way. Is it just me?

   She does say that while her marriage began rather spontaneously, it didn’t begin perfectly. But she explains the statement by mentining the defeat she had in her first marriage years, throwing hurtful words at her husband and so on.

   One more question I would like to post and hope it is all right. I realize this comes from chapter 24 but in case you don’t finish the whole review hope maybe you could just answer this question. It’s about Sarah. Debi writes: “If I had been the one authorizing exceptions, I would have released Sarah from obeying her husband on at least two occasions, but I would have been wrong. Sarah chose to obey Abraham even when he lied and told her to lie because he was afraid of what could happen if the king knew she was his wife. Hebrews 11 presents Sarah as Abraham as examples of faith. In 1 Peter 3, she is honored as being the woman who called her huband lord.” (page 275)

   Yes, I know Abraham was a man of God and he is listed in Hebrews 11 as a man of faith. That however does not negate the fact that in those two instances he SINNED by lying. So the fact that Sarah as well is listed in Hebrews as a woman of faith doest not necessarily imply she didn’t sin in those two instances when she went along with the lying. What do you think? I know God intervened and protected her, but did He do it BECAUSE Sarah did right in sharing in Abraham’s lie, or did God intervene and protect her IN SPITE OF her lie, because it was His plan to protect her seed in view of the Messiah that was to come? God also blessed Rahab for her stand with Israel against her own pagan people, but it doesn’t mean He appreciated her lying either. (And I don’t ‘blame’ Rahab, those people didn’t have the whole Word of God as we have it now, and she did what she had light at that time to do, and it was marvellous that she recognized Israel was God’s people.)

   I hope I’m expressing myself clearly enough … I do know if my husband were to ask me to lie with him to someone, I would say, ‘If you want to lie about this I cannot stop you but it is sin and I will have no part in it. Do not expect me to support your lie.’ My husband agrees that’s what I should do. So please don’t get me wrong, I’m not denying at all that Sarah was a godly woman, but did she do right in those two instances or did God save her because of His love and gracious plan in spite of her sin?

   Link | July 17th, 2006 at 1:47 am

8. razorbackmama wrote,

   Ya know Brindusa, I had problems with their whole “getting together” scenario too, but I thought maybe I was being a bit nit-picky if I said anything about it. I mean, my dh and I got engaged in my bedroom (we were just sitting there LOL), and the main way we got together in the first place was he gave me a big ol’ smackaroo LOL! However, thank you for your thoughts because ya know…I don’t simply say the way we got together was “unconventional” or “spontaneous” (although that kiss was rather spontaneous LOL!) - it WAS indiscreet and unchaste. And if I were to write a book on discreetness, chasteness, etc., I would have definitely either not put in my story OR I would have put in a disclaimer of how NOT to do things.

   You are exactly right.

   I have received several requests to finish out the chapters. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said, “Sometimes when I read something that is way off I feel so frustrated and in a way ’suffocated’ as there is SO much error to point out, that it’s very hard to bring myself to say anything at all. I don’t even know where to start and how to say all that there should be said, do you know what I mean?”

   I know EXACTLY what you mean. However, I am going to give it a shot LOL! Next week is our last week of school until September, so I’m hoping that I will have some time to devote to putting my thoughts together. (On top of school planning and other necessary things LOL!)

   I have very similar thoughts on Sarah. Nowhere in Scripture do we see that she was commended FOR THAT SPECIFIC ACT of going along with Abraham’s sin. However, IN GENERAL she obeyed her husband. BIG DIFFERENCE.

   Thanks for your thoughts!!!

   Link | July 17th, 2006 at 10:15 am