Created To Be His Help Meet - Chapter 12
As with several of the other chapters, Chapter 12 contains both good and bad. The title of the chapter is "By Divine Appointment," and the subtitle reads
The only position where you will find real fulfillment as a woman is as a help meet to your husband.
As I wondered in Chapter 6, I wonder what she'd say to women who are being obedient to God and are *GASP* still single. For MARRIED women, YES, the only position in which they will find real fulfillment as a woman is as a help meet to their husbands. But there again...just what does "help meet" really mean? I have found that the Bible paints a very different picture of a help meet than Mrs. Pearl does.
But I think I'm getting off track here, so let's begin.
She begins the chapter by quoting 1 Corinthians 11:3:
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of the Christ is God (her emphasis)
and Ephesians 5:23:
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body
and then basically says that the husband is in charge, even if he's a dud, and this is how God set it up for our protection. Which to some extent is true, since that is what the Bible says. I just disagree with what Mrs. Pearl says that LOOKS LIKE.
She emphasizes that it doesn't matter if our husband is saved, not saved, etc., when we submit to them, we are modeling the same "heavenly pattern" that Christ did when he submitted to God the Father. Which again, is true, to a point.
God tell us that we are to be help meets: We are to submit, obey, and even reverence our husbands.
So that is her "definition" of help meet. We do need to serve, honor, submit, reverence, etc., but at times being a true help meet means NOT "submitting" (note the quotes). Sometimes going along with a husband's whims would NOT actually help him.
Now, at the same time, we cannot get on our spiritual high horse and be expressing our righteous indignation or whatever. As with EVERY situation, we must take everything before the Father, weigh it against the whole of Scripture, etc. Sometimes He just might have you go along with something stupid your husband wants to do, so that ***HE*** can bonk your husband up side the head about something. Or sometimes it's not even about what your husband wants to do as much as it is about the relationship between you and him. It just depends on the situation, where God is leading, what the Word says on the matter, what has happened in the past, etc. There is no way that any author can say definitively, "This is what you need to do when your husband wants to xyz."
As Christian women our ways should be gentle, generous, humble, cheerful, loving, etc.....ANYWAY!!!!! And of COURSE that should extend to our husbands. We DO need to serve our husbands. And our children. And our neighbors. So I guess that's where I disagree with Mrs. Pearl - I don't think that the world should revolve around my husband, his desires, his demands, etc., and I have yet to see anything in the Bible saying so.
On page 118 Mrs. Pearl explains that
[God] also tells us WHY we are assigned the role of helper.
1. We came forth from man's ribs and were created for him. We are a part of him. "For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image a glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man" (I Cor. 11:7-9).
2. Our position in relation to our husband is a picture of the Great Mystery, which is Christ and the Church. We, as the body of Christ, are for Him, our living Head. It can be no other way! [She quotes 1 Cor. 11:3 again] "This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church...and the wife see that she reverence her husband" (Eph. 5:32-33).
She's right about point number 1 - woman was taken from man. We are to be their helpers. Period. However, in her explanation of the 1 Corinthians 11 passage, she leaves out verse 11:
Nevertheless, in [the plan of] the Lord and from His point of view woman is not apart from and independednt of man, nor is man aloof from and independent of woman;
So while a woman isn't free to "do her own thing," neither is man. They need to answer to one another.
Her 2nd point is true as well, but not in the way that she means. I find it interesting (yet not surprising) that she skipped the first part of verse 33 in her last quote. The entire verse says
Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
Some would argue that it doesn't matter since this book is written to wives, not to husbands. While I agree that a woman's reverence shouldn't depend on how her husband treats her and that her submission shouldn't depend on what he does, in the BIBLE these two things go hand in hand. The husband's role and the wife's role are interwoven, and the assumption is there that both are saved and doing right. We can't just isolate one spouse's role and chunk the rest of the verse as irrelevant.
Now I hear some saying, "But Mrs. Pearl isn't throwing out verses calling them irrelevant." Her next sentence indicates that she does:
God tells us WHY our husband is to be the one who rules the home.
Nowhere in this passage in Ephesians that Mrs. Pearl is quoting from will you find anything even remotely resembling permission for the husband to RULE the home. While YES, he does have a position of authority, He is also instructed to lay his life down for her as Christ loved the Church.
And on the flip side, we can't just take the husband's role out of these passages and ignore the wife's - otherwise we'd have the husband doing everything he could to please his wife and the wife doing whatever she wanted.
IT'S A BALANCE. It is designed to be such. BIBLICALLY marriage is both people serving each other, giving to each other, laying down their wants for one another. It is NOT about which one "rules" and which one "obeys."
BUT, for the sake of argument, let's assume that the Bible does talk about the man "ruling." What kind of ruler does the Bible teach is a good one? How did Christ lead and rule? He washed His disciples' feet. He told them that if they wanted to be first, they must be last. He served others. What about other rulers? Over and over we see that wise and good rulers are ones that are humble, giving, gentle, generous, willing to serve, etc. Quite a different picture than the type of "ruler" that Mrs. Pearl writes about when she speaks of a husband ruling his home.
"But Keer, this book isn't about what the husbands are supposed to do." I know that. But this book is based upon the faulty assumption that it's OK for a husband to boss his family around, even if he does so in a polite manner. It's based on an unbiblical portrait of what a husband should be like. So since the underlying assumption is wrong, that does affect the advice to the wives as well.
OK so then she switches gears and discusses "Limitations God Put Into Place," beginning on page 119.
God expresses a clear and sure mandate when he tells us:"But I suffer not [do not allow] a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, [that includes your pastor] but to be in silence" (I Timothy 2:12).
She points out that just because a woman may be QUALIFIED to be an effective minister doesn't mean that she is AUTHORIZED to be one. I actually have to agree with her here, based on what I've read in Scripture - women are not to be in spiritual authority over men. I'm fine with women teaching other women or children. I'm not fine with women teaching men, and DEFINITELY not with women pastoring churches. Scripture makes it clear that women are more easily deceived than men when it comes to spiritual things.
But what about Deborah?
If you actually read the story, you would know that the text makes much of the fact that the men were shamed by allowing a woman to take the place of prominence. There is no question that Deborah performed the job well, that she saved Israel, that God used her; that is just the point. When the men allowed a woman to take their role and perform the job successfully, it resulted in shame to the nation of Israel. Deborah knew this to be the case and warned the men as such. To build a doctrine on this story, while ignoring the majority of the doctrinal passages on the leadership of women, is as foolish as Deborah leading the armies of Israel instead of a man.
I'm sorry, I just have to chuckle at several of her comments there. First, "if you actually read the story" - she assumes we haven't and therefore have no idea what it really says.
And second, building a doctrine on one story while ignoring other passages....ROFLOL!!!!!!!!! Hello!!! Pot calling the kettle black!!!
Anyway....
So I did go back and actually read the story, which is found in Judges 4. What is it that brought "shame" upon Israel - Deborah judging? No. The men being wimps is what brought shame upon Israel. It had nothing to do with her sitting under her palm and judging disputes between people - it had everything to do with Barak saying he wouldn't do what God had told him to do unless Deborah came with him. And according to the text, Deborah didn't "lead the armies of Israel." Barak did, but Deborah went with him at his request.
So while I do agree that we can't use Deborah as "proof" that it's OK for women to lead men, Mrs. Pearl pretty much twisted this story to prove what she was saying: that since Deborah led Israel, it brought shame to the nation.
She also wonders, "What about Priscilla and Aquila?" I personally have never heard anyone use Priscilla as "proof" that it's OK for women to lead men spiritually, but I just may not have been exposed to it - I find that I learn something new everyday.
So I'll believe that people do use that argument. I agree fully with what Mrs. Pearl says:
...as if the inclusion of the woman with her husband somehow negates the hundred or so doctrinal verses that teach about a woman's role as a helper to her husband. On the contrary, although they are mentioned five times in the Bible, Priscilla is never mentioned alone. She is always with her husband
Mrs. Pearl goes on to emphasize that a woman is not a second-class citizen of the kingdom.
I know that for you to be happy - really happy - as I have been happy, you must follow and abide in God's role for women.God has spoken frankly as to why he made us as he did and what our role is to be.
I agree 100%. EXCEPT that I believe what the BIBLE says about women and their role. NOT what this book says the Bible says about women and their role.
Yet so-called Bible teachers today tear apart what God has said and make the average young wife reading these Scriptures feel as though what God has said to her is an insult.
I guess you could say that I'm an "average young wife reading these Scriptures." I find the SCRIPTURES empowering, enlightening, and life-giving. I find Debi Pearl's interpretation of the Scriptures to be insulting.
After almost 35 years as a wife, counseling ladies, reading thousands upon thousands of letters, and chalking up my own life experiences, I have concluded that what the Bible says on this subject is rock-solid truth, and it works! I have also seen the sad results of the teachings that reject the plain sense of Scripture.
I have to chuckle that she had that second sentence following the first.
She is right on that what the Bible says on this subject works. The only problem is that what she is teaching isn't what the Bible teaches. And so yes, I agree with her second sentence as well.
If you want what I and thousands of women have, then you must follow the plan the way God wrote it in the Bible.
There you have it, straight from Debi Pearl herself. Throw this book in the trash (if you have it), and just read the Bible yourself. ![]()

Holly wrote,
HI my name is Holly and I was checking the book out, my husband looked briefly at the chapter on the webpage and said he would rather have me reading the word!! Its good to hear some other perspectives, I have seen a bit of this put on a pedistal. I am newly married and we are talking about homeschooling it time. I am excited about learning about it more thank you for your input!
ps I do not have a blog but if you want you can email me at hollyshook@sbcglobal.net
Link | July 16th, 2005 at 12:01 pm
razorbackmama wrote,
Holly, your husband sounds like a very wise man.
Link | July 16th, 2005 at 12:04 pm
Holly wrote,
Another Holly? Cool!
Good review, Kirstin.
Are you feeling good now?
Is DH still in training?
Link | July 16th, 2005 at 5:34 pm
Julie in Kentucky wrote,
AMEN! Don’t let anyone intimidate you into going silent on this. You’re speaking the truth and I admire your courage and insight. Great job.
Link | July 16th, 2005 at 8:45 pm
Barbara wrote,
thanks again Keer for the great comments…i agree with you 1000%…but CHANGE the blog colors! it’s hard to read!
Link | July 17th, 2005 at 5:43 am
TulipGirl wrote,
Thoughtful, as always.
Link | July 17th, 2005 at 7:23 am
razorbackmama wrote,
Ack Barbara!!! Here I liked it. Since you’re the second person to comment on it, I’ll change it.
The other stuff is so boring though LOL!
Link | July 17th, 2005 at 9:35 am
Serena wrote,
Hey, Kirstin, you are smart and I think you can change your blogs appearance however you want without being stuck with the standard template’s look. If you look at my “Come Out” site you will see that I took a standard Rounders template and made some changes in the code that enabled me to have a customized site. It was fun and not so hard to do.
You do not have to keep anything in your template code if you do not like it. You can save the changes you do like and then make more. If you don’t like something, hit clear edits. The preview button is the key. You need to preview every change. If you like it, save it and if you don’t clear it.
I viewed the page source for someone who had done something similar to their blog (put a picture in the top blank colored Title Area). I then started goofing around with changing Text size and padding and background colors and came up with what I liked. If you don’t like something you can put it back to what it was. Like I said the preview button is the key to it because you have to look at each thing you do and observe how it changes the look of your page. If you like the look, save it and then make more changes. When you are done, republish your blog. I really don’t know that much about html but could figure out that much on my own. I’m going to comment on this blog entry but thought at the moment that you would like to know what you things you can do to get a blog site how you like it.
You could put your blog back to a rounders style, get your template up on your blogger site and then open another window with the “Come Out” site in it and then start comparing where the changes were made to get the new look. I uploaded a picture to a new blog entry (create new) and took the same code out that was recommended to use for doing a profile picture to get the picture at the top since I don’t have a server to get a picture from. I then did not post the blog entry. I hope that helps you if you would like to make a custom look yourself.
Love and shalom,
Serena
Link | July 17th, 2005 at 12:42 pm
Barbara wrote,
ooo! Serena you are so smart! i’m such a geek, i can’t barely add links!
thanks Keer, MUCH easier on the eyes!
Link | July 17th, 2005 at 1:15 pm
razorbackmama wrote,
Oh but Serena that requires time and thinking LOL!!!
;-) 
Link | July 17th, 2005 at 4:32 pm
Corriejo wrote,
Hi Kristen,
As always, I enjoy reading your reviews concerning this book. I agree with many of the points that you made on Chapter 13. 1 Cor. 7 gives a picture of married men being more concerned about how they can please their wives and married women being more concerned about how they can please their husbands and how Paul says that this is the reason it is better to remain single. Certainly, imho, the Bible does not teach that marriage is a one-sided relationship where the wife is the one responsible to worry about and attend to her husband’s every whim. It is a reciprocal relationship, with each person concerned about the other person’s needs and fufilling their desires.
I also agree with you that women cannot hold offices of authority within the church. I do think that many try and limit their role and function within the church much too narrowly. Priscilla and Aquilla along with Phoebe are good examples of how women were very much important in the furtherance of sound doctrine and the function of daily church life. Priscilla taught the scriptures to Appollos. Yes, she did this with her husband but there is no distinction made in scripture that Aquilla played a more dominant role in this teaching. They taught Apollos a more better way (sounder doctrine). Some would say that Priscilla was merely there to serve cookies and attend to her husband’s needs while teaching Apollos but this isn’t the case at all. I do not believe that all teaching is authoritative. That means that when I go to a Sunday school class and a man (who is neither a pastor or elder in the church) is teaching me doctrine, he does not have any more authority over me than any other man. Now, as a Christian sister in the Lord, I will learn in a peaceable and quiet fashion but I will take everything I learn to scripture for discernment.
The same goes for private settings of instruction like Priscilla and Apollos and Aquilla. I believe a woman is free to share her opinions of scripture with men as long as she doesn’t take an authoritative role in the whole process. It would have been equally wrong for Aquilla to presume to take authority over Apollos, too. After all, they were all Christians who were expounding a better way of looking at scripture.
So, while I have heard Priscilla being used to prove women can be pastors, I have also heard many who negate the important role she played in Apollos’ spiritual devolopment.
I was wondering which scripture(s) you use to support this statement:
Scripture makes it clear that women are more easily deceived than men when it comes to spiritual things.
I am not picking on you at all but I find that we repeat many things that we are taught (I do it all the time) without really looking into the origen of such teachings.
I cannot find a scripture in the entire Bible that says that women are more easily deceived than men, especially when it comes to spiritual things.
I can find plenty of scriptures concerning men and women being in danger of being deceived. Paul even warns the Corinthians that he fears that they will be like Eve (he is talking to men and women equally) and become decieved.
The scripture in 2 Timothy says that *Eve* was deceived. It is speaking of a particular person and a particular situation.
I believe that we are all- men and women alike- in danger of becoming deceived. The Bible warns us that if anyone thinks that we are not in danger of being deceived or falling into error, then we should take heed lest we fall.
The Bible tells us that in the end times men will be deceived and do the deceiving.
All I have to look around and see are the books and articles written by multitudes of deceived men concerning theology or science and it makes me see that no gender has a corner on the market of being more easily deceived.
The same Holy Spirit that guards our hearts and minds in Christ is in both men and women. The heart is exceedingly wicked and deceitful who can know it? This is speaking to both men and women.
Yes, I know some women that are extremely gullible and I also know some men who are extrememly gullible (for example: the simple man in Proverbs) but that is either because they have been conditioned to be gullible or it is part of their personality.
I also don’t think that scripture teaches anywhere that women cannot hold positions of authority in the church because they are inherently more susceptible to deception, either.
These things are all taught but I find no biblical support for teaching such things.
Keep up the good work, Kristen. It is refreshing to hear someone not afraid of man and who is not afraid of speaking the truth in love.
Blessings,
Corrie
Link | July 17th, 2005 at 9:58 pm
razorbackmama wrote,
Thanks for your comments Corrie!
I TOTALLY agree that men and women both are able to be deceived (which is apparent all throughout Scripture!).
“The scripture in 2 Timothy says that *Eve* was deceived. It is speaking of a particular person and a particular situation.”
Yes, it is speaking about Eve in particular, but Paul writes it as the REASON he is not permitting the women to teach:
11Let a woman learn in quietness, in entire submissiveness.
12I allow no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to remain in quietness and keep silence [in religious assemblies].
13For Adam was first formed, then Eve;
14And it was not Adam who was deceived, but [the] woman who was deceived and deluded and fell into transgression.
Which is why I made that statement. “More easily” deceived, but that “more” is by JUUUUUUUUUST a smidgen, I’d say.
Link | July 17th, 2005 at 10:14 pm
Kathleen wrote,
Thanks for the new review, Keer, and I agree with you. The more I read this book, the more I believe that Debi is writing the book totally from the point of view of a woman coping with being married to a Mr. SUPER Command. The way she says we should behave is probably the only way she was able to stand being married to someone who cares nothing for his wife’s feelings or opinions and only wants someone to be around to meet his every need (and I do apologize if that is not how Mr. Pearl really is but it sure is the picture she paints of the “old man”). I admire her for being happily married to such a man! But her advice probably will not work for women married to other types of men (dare I say *most* types of men????) and could cause a lot of unhappiness. I cannot imagine only “appealing” to my husband four times in our entire marriage (I am jumping ahead in the book here!). To me this type of communication should be taking place every day…husbands and wives discussing together what is best for both of them and the husband ultimately deciding after listening respectfully to his wife. I will say that I am putting some things I have read into action and my husband is enjoying the results, hehe, but I agree once again that her interpretation of many of the scriptures is skewed at best and downright erroneous at worst. I just read some advice she gave to a letter writer on her webpage that left my jaw hanging open. Someone wrote that her sister, who was a quiet, subservient type of girl who married after a parent-led courtship, is now yoked to a verbally abusive jerk who is constantly putting her down and telling her she is fat and no good etc. Debi’s advice was “As the weaker s*x, a young married woman needs to allow her feelings to show when her husband is wounding her. In other words, she needs to cry loudly, brokenly, and express to him (not to you) how hurt she is. He will be shocked and embarrassed, and soon learn to treat her more kindly.” When has THAT ever worked??? LOL! I don’t know a single man who has ever been softened by a woman “crying loudly” and certainly not an abusive man!
Kathleen
Link | July 18th, 2005 at 3:19 pm
Anonymous wrote,
Anonymous 2 here again!
I agree with what has been said concerning women’s authority in the church. A woman pastor is totally against Scripture.
However I do believe a woman has a teaching role. Women do have truth they can share.
“Some would say that Priscilla was merely there to serve cookies and attend to her husband’s needs while teaching Apollos but this isn’t the case at all.”
This made me laugh-even more than Debi Pearl’s statement equating Priscilla and Aquilla to “Mike and Debi Pearl”, with Debi sitting in the audience. Scripture does not have Priscilla “sitting in the audience.”
Some have said that Priscilla could have been the “lead teacher” since her name was mentioned first. (Look at Paul and Barnabus. Their name order was switched as Paul became more prominant.) Even so, her husband was there and she wasn’t in authority over Apollis.
Some of this is in reaction to what I keep hearing in church:
1. Eve knew her doctrine (No, she added that you couldn’t even “touch”)
2. She was deceived (So was Adam which is NEVER mentioned.) (Of course, the flip side of that is Adam wasn’t deceive but with full knowledge went into it anyway? And that is “better”?)
Am anxiously awaiting for your review of Part 2. Have lots of questions and “Huh”’s in that section.
Link | July 20th, 2005 at 6:08 am
razorbackmama wrote,
Oh yes, women definitely have a teaching role! It’s when women teach somewhat “authoritatively” to men or mixed groups that raises my eyebrows a bit. I’ve been in SS classes where there was a couple leading the class. I’ve been in classes that are more of a discussion type situation, and both men and women were free to share. I’ve been in ones where women taught and did a good job. And like Mrs. Pearl mentioned, it’s not that they do a BAD job or are even teaching anything WRONG, but I do believe it’s out of their scope as women. One church in particular I went to, the women “had” to teach since the men wouldn’t. The women did a decent job, but I bet if the men had stepped up to the plate, they would have done an even better job! (Well…most of the time…at this church one of my male teachers was teaching incorrect doctrine while the woman wasn’t. *sigh* )
ANYWAY!!!! So while I agree that women can and do have something to offer, everything I’ve read in the Bible (LOL I’ve had to read it there since all the churches I’ve gone to have been absolutely A-OK with women leading men) indicates that women shouldn’t be in an authoritatively teaching position over men in general.
Link | July 20th, 2005 at 9:42 am
Serena wrote,
Like everything she has written, there is truth in this chapter. What I have trouble with is the “twist” that is done to it. One thing is the use of the verse in Genesis 3:16. The word translated “desire” there is only used 3 times in the Tanakh(O.T.) and since one of those other verses also uses the word “rule” in it in Genesis 4:7, it may not have the meaning that she is putting on it. I actually see that Father is telling them the consequences of their actions and the conflict that would now be in their relationship as far as His order is concerned. I believe that before the fall, His order was in effect but not a problem to either Adam or Eve. Adam would have been as Yeshua is. He would have not lorded his authority over his wife, but loved and served her as Yeshua does His bride. Eve would have reverenced her husband and willingly followed his leadership. The fall changed that. It has caused men to “lord” their authority and it has caused women to compete for a position of dominance. That has caused conflict in the relationship between husbands and wives until Yeshua is the head of their home and they come into His order. He says that men are not to use authority as the “gentiles” or “nations” in lording it over, but that they are to serve and give their lives. That begins in the home and if it isn’t in the home, then it is hypocrisy out of the home. He never advocates authoritative leadership. He did give dominion to both men and women in Genesis 1:28 over His creation, but I do not see anywhere that He gave dominion of man over man. He was supposed to be in that place in men’s (and women’s) lives.
Another exception I take is that she portrays Eve as leading Adam into sin. According to the scripture she gave of the fruit to her husband with her. He was with her when she was being deceived and when she chose to take the fruit and he could have refused to take it for himself. Obviously, he chose to take it and the scripture does not say that he was deceived in it. We can make all kinds of suppositions about it, but the fact is that Adam chose to sin knowingly and that sin is laid at his door, not Eve’s in the scripture. Debi says “God created the woman to be the helper of the man - a sinless man. Now that she has led him into sin, she is still his helper, her desires are still focused on him and his goals, and he will still rule over her as before - but now he is sinful, selfish, and carnal.” Excuse me, but the book is written for women who are not focused on their husbands and their goals and the ensuing conflict. Woman became just as sinful, selfish and carnal as Adam when they sinned and ate of the forbidden fruit. The struggle for woman has been to choose to be that help fit for her husband (when she is a married woman - obviously, a married woman is to be a helper that is fit for her own husband but a single woman isn’t). Only as both husband and wife willingly submit to Yeshua’s authority (that He never lords over them) are they able to function as YHWH originally intended.
I addressed the women keeping silent in the churches scripture on my blog, Come Out To Life, quite recently. It does not touch on the scripture in Timothy about a woman teaching or usurping authority over a man. I read an excellent, scholarly (and lengthy) study that teaches about these particular scriptures as well as the order for the home, the wife’s submission, and woman’s role in the believing community. The man who has done the teaching is as knowlegeable as Debi Pearl’s husband, who she seems to think is the final authority on the scripture because of his knowlege of the Greek. You can find the study at:
http://www.torahresource.com/English%20Articles/Role%20of%20Women.pdf
and it is a very worthwhile read. No man has the final interpretation on the scripture. All see through a glass darkly. Some have a grasp of the truth in one area, others in another. That is why we are all needed in the body of Messiah. We help balance each other out and bring what He has taught us into the light.
Oh, btw, Debi wants to know if we know even one couple that has a heavenly marriage. I have met several throughout the years that do and believe that I have a heavenly marriage. She has a way of writing that is manipulative when she writes things like that. What I find extremely interesting is that after she makes it sound like it is very rare to know a couple with a heavenly marriage, she makes sure that she and her husband are set up as THE example of a heavenly marriage and if we do things just as she says she has, we will have one, too. Personally, I don’t want her marriage and am very grateful that my husband exemplifies servant leadership.
I’m looking forward to the rest of the review of this book.
Love and shalom,
Serena
Link | July 20th, 2005 at 3:06 pm
razorbackmama wrote,
Thanks for your comments Serena! I went to that artcile and WHOA NELLY it is a long one LOL! Looking forward to reading it. Great post on your blog about silence by women in the church. I totally agree. For example, in my current church, I don’t really have a problem with a woman leading the singing (the Lord has definitely gifted her with a voice to BELT IT LOL), but I’m quite uncomfortable in a mixed Sunday School class with a woman as the only teacher….
Link | July 20th, 2005 at 3:39 pm